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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:59 am 
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I agree, there's a reason the cult gets tossed off every other forum but you know how things work here. It's the same thing I've said in the past with other people like them... don't gratify their bullshit theory with a response. It's been debunked by just about anyone who has done any amount of independent 9/11 research for years but they continue to argue in circles then claim censorship. One of their leaders, Killtown, was famous for this and is banned just about everywhere in Patriotworld. I think it's more out of stupidity than actual disinfo. But that's just me, so instead of trying to argue anymore I just post pictures of midgets playing basketball. Because it's about as relevant to a 9/11 discussion as space beams. Enjoy.

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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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All right, fair enough.

If you think by posting pictures of midgets who play basketball will do the trick, then I'm willing to give it a shot....


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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:16 am 
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No planers are making a mockery out of 9/11 truth.


Why does the mainstream media not interview no planers more if they are meant to discredit the movement?

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They say things like "all the witnesses who saw and heard planes with their own eyes and ears in NYC hit the towers are lying or are mistaken".

http://www.911disinformation.com/noplan ... ssesAnchor
http://www.911disinformation.com/noplan ... ssesAnchor

They then turn around and use statements from witnesses who didn't see a plane, but only saw the tower explode. However, they refuse to admit that it's much more likely that these people who saw the building explode were actually on the opposite side of the tower, or weren't in position to see the plane hit the building.


Problem is, they didn't hear a plane.

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"Gary Smiley, 38, FDNY paramedic, was carrying an injured woman across Church Street who kept yelling "plane" and Smiley recalled, "I looked up at that point, and that's when the second plane hit the South Tower. The explosion was unbelievable. It was right over my head. You didn't hear anything. People ask me sometimes, 'What did you hear?' I heard nothing.""
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=9 ... no_planers

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiNt7YFKyvU


The man seems quite convinced.

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They dismiss all the visual (and audio) evidence of planes hitting the towers by saying that all the video and photos were "faked".

http://www.911disinformation.com/noplan ... deosAnchor
http://www.911disinformation.com/noplan ... otosAnchor


The evidence of TV/Video/Photo fakery is the smoking gun for No Planes. Of course they are dismissed. It is dismissed because the evidence shows they are fake.

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They dismiss all the wreckage of planes found at the WTC as being "planted".

They dismiss photos (like the ones below) as being "fake", or that they "can't see the plane part located in the photo":


Much of the wreckage was highly questionable. One tire somehow survived the entire explosion, coming out the other side and hitting the ground hundreds of feet below with only a slit. It then wound up under scaffolding (Concealed area, therefore easy to plant debris). Remember, wreckage-planting was part of the Northwoods plan.

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They refuse to acknowledge that the 9/11 criminals would never have risked faking planes at the WTC, because one or more -- out of the thousands of potential people pointing cameras at the burning North Tower who were in position to capture the South Tower impact -- could have photographed the building exploding without an airplane hitting it, which they then could have distributed to family and friends, the internet, or other outlets, exposing the official story about hijacked planes being used to crash into the WTC.


Why they didn't use planes
http://911closeup.com/

Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/05/wh ... t-wtc.html

#1: Logic is a good thing to use to help solve problems, but in the end, the facts matter more. The facts show that the TV videos were faked.

#2: In an interview with an Italian TV station, an NYPD officer stated that the police went around confiscating footage during the attack. As Simon Shack said, "Did the NYPD have no graver concerns than gathering people's film rolls in the early hours of the attack"?

#3: They knew that since the North Tower had already been damaged, most people would be looking at it/training their cameras on it, not the South Tower. The first attack was a surprise, that's why no one caught it. The damage from the first attack would act as a distraction from the second attack.

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They say things like "planes can't travel at high speeds at low altitudes" to prop up their bullshit.

But when confronted with videos such as these, they just dismiss them, or ignore them completely:


I have never used the speed issue as evidence of No Planes, so this does not apply to me. See? It is wrong to lump all no planers into one group. That's just as wrong as lumping all truthers into one group.

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This kind of bullshit that these people are spewing does not belong on this message board or anywhere else (that cares about truth, that is).

This isn't a free speech issue.

They've been exposed as liars and frauds who've purposely and deceptively infiltrated this forum.

They need to go.

Kris?


'They'..

Yup, you're still lumping all no planers into one group, government-census-paper style.

No one 'infiltrated this forum'. I came to discuss 9/11 and other issues (Not just NPT/DEW). CB_Brooklyn, Scarecrow, and ATTC came for the debate. There is no infiltration going on here, certainly not the deceptive kind. :)

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I agree, there's a reason the cult gets tossed off every other forum but you know how things work here. It's the same thing I've said in the past with other people like them... don't gratify their bullshit theory with a response. It's been debunked by just about anyone who has done any amount of independent 9/11 research for years but they continue to argue in circles then claim censorship. One of their leaders, Killtown, was famous for this and is banned just about everywhere in Patriotworld.


It is censorship. That's undeniable. Look at Killtown's blog to see why he was banned each of those times. They are really stupid reasons. Go on, check.


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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:19 am 
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All right, fair enough.

If you think by posting pictures of midgets who play basketball will do the trick, then I'm willing to give it a shot....


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Nope. Didn't work.

Kris? You got any better ideas than pictures of midgets playing basketball?

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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:21 am 
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stallion4 wrote:
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All right, fair enough.

If you think by posting pictures of midgets who play basketball will do the trick, then I'm willing to give it a shot....


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Nope. Didn't work.

Kris?


Asking the admins to ban me for no reason (Other than you perceive me as a fraud) isn't going to work. I guess you're just mad because every time you flame me or call me a disinfo agent, I correct you or call you on it, and make you look like a fool.


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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:25 am 
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stallion4 wrote:
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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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Thanks for the death wish. That's the same thing they do at known shill boards like JREF. If the conversation has degenerated into this level of maturity, that's fine:

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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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Yeah, you should think about it. The world would be a much better place with one less POS like yourself. Think about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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stallion4 wrote:
Yeah, you should think about it. The world would be a much better place with one less POS like yourself. Think about it.


:lol: And you're begging for me to get banned. Awesome JREF-style death wishes there, Stallion4 and Rob Bishop. You two have both truly exposed yourselves.


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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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Banned, kill yourself, whatever.

It's all good.

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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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Hilarious, and you think I'm discrediting myself. If I was the uninitiated outsider and I was reading this post, I'd be appalled at your behavior.


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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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If I was an uninitiated outsider I would think you're batshit crazy. I'm just letting those folks know that it's just an act.

You have blood on your hands for the lies you've spread trying to associate yourself with people who don't believe the official 9/11 fairytale.

I think you're a fed who's protecting the criminals who did 9/11.

How fucking proud you must be.

(Sorry Rob, but I'm fresh out of pics of midgets playing basketball LOL)

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 Post subject: Re: Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths
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