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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:47 pm 
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Here are some key points:

1) Many people HEARD the planes flying at the towers

2) Many people SAW the second plane hit the building and described it as a plane NOT a missile.

1) Can you please show me a TV reporter on the ground reporting live to the studio at the time of the alleged crash who said they HEARD the 2nd plane fly into the tower?

2) Can you please show me a TV reporter on the ground reporting live to the studio at the time of the alleged crash who said they SAW the 2nd plane fly into the tower?


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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:04 pm 
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TheParadigmShift wrote:
Here are some key points:

1) Many people HEARD the planes flying at the towers

2) Many people SAW the second plane hit the building and described it as a plane NOT a missile.

1) Can you please show me a TV reporter on the ground reporting live to the studio at the time of the alleged crash who said they HEARD the 2nd plane fly into the tower?

2) Can you please show me a TV reporter on the ground reporting live to the studio at the time of the alleged crash who said they SAW the 2nd plane fly into the tower?



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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:44 am 
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Ugh, how many times do people have to post this...
how long is it going to take to make people wake up.
think outside of the box for once in your life people.

Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."


There are three basic versions of the 9/11 events. Although differences and/or overlapping may occur, the following three versions generally describe what most people believe:


1. OGCT. This is known as the “Official Government Conspiracy Theory”. This version states that a guy from a cave in Afghanistan conspired with 19 boxcutter-wielding Muslims to hijack airplanes, outwit the USA’s entire multi-trillion dollar defense system, and cause the Twin Towers to collapse. This is the version pushed by the government and media as being the truth of 9/11.

2. APCT. I call this the “Alternate Propaganda Conspiracy Theory”. This version states that, more or less, there were hijackings on 9/11, but the planes might have been taken under remote control to ensure they crashed as planned. Airplanes most likely crashed at the Pentagon and Shanksville, but planes definitely did crash into the Twin Towers. The Twin Towers and WTC 7 collapsed from conventional explosives and thermite, and molten metal was found in the rubble. This is the version pushed by the government and media as being the “wacko conspiracy theory” that the “truth movement” believes.

3. REAL. This, simply, is the REAL version, backed by actual evidence, Laws of Physics, and common sense: There were no hijackings, no plane crashes, the corporate media broadcasted cartoons of an airplane impacting the South Tower, and the WTC complex (not just the Towers and WTC 7) was destroyed with Directed Energy Weapons (DEW). The government and media steer clear of these.



Refer to the Lenin-credited quote above.

Is it possible the “truth movement” has been run by the 9/11 perpetrators since day one?

Is it possible that certain individuals have been planted to steer the “truth movement” away from the perpetrators? Is it possible these plants have affiliations with directed energy weapons (DEW)?

Is it even possible that some of these plants are “in on it” while others got suckered in? You be the judge.



***Former Transportation Secretary, Norman Mineta, has ties to the Directed Energy Professional Society (DEPS).

Mineta was Vice President of Lockheed Martin, a sponsor of DEPS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Mineta
http://www.deps.org/DEPSpages/sponsors.html

Mineta ensured minimal interference with the DEW by grounding as many commercial airliners as possible during the timeframe of the towers’ destruction.

Mineta steered the “truth movement” toward hijackings and plane crashes by spreading the “Cheney stand down order” hoax.



***Former BYU physics professor, Steven Jones, has done research at Los Alamos where directed energy weapons are researched.

Jones steered the “truth movement” toward thermite/conventional explosives/molten metal theories. Jones’ molten metal evidence has been shown to be fabricated.


Jones ridicules the directed energy weapon and TV-Fakery theories with statements such as ”These two are noted for their no-planes-hit-the-Towers theories and for promoting the notion of ray-beams from space knocking down the Towers.”
http://judicial-inc.biz/Steven_Jones_quits_911.htm



***Physicist Greg Jenkins’ has connections to the NSA and DEW:

"This work was supported in part by NSF grant DMR-9705129 and by funding from the NSA."
http://www.physics.buffalo.edu/cerne/reprints/ybco_prl.рdf

Jenkins’ papers were listed in an annual report which also listed at least one manufacturer of directed energy weapons (Rockwell).


Jenkins steered the “truth movement” away from directed energy weapons by conducting an ambush interview of Dr Judy Wood. (However, a read of the transcript reveals Dr Wood won the debate hands down.)

***Former Director of the Star Wars program, Robert Bowman, is about as close to directed energy weapons as one can get.

Bowman steered the “truth movement” toward hijackings, and NORAD standing down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5gio_iR2WE

Although he is in Jim Fetzer’s Scholars group, I have not heard him speaking about Dr Wood’s DEW evidence. I do remember, however, an interview where Bowman states that he “doesn’t fall for conspiracy theories” with regard to controlled demolition.

Bowman has a PhD in Nuclear Engineering. How can he possibly call this a conspiracy theory?

The New York Times is a mainstream media source. Do they tell the truth of 9/11 or do they hide it? Why on earth would they help the “truth movement” by publishing evidence of explosives?

The New York Times steered the “truth movement” towards explosives demolitions by publishing the WTC Task Force Interviews.



Dr Judy Wood has discovered that ARA and SAIC are manufacturers of Directed Energy Weapons and have expertise in Psychological Operations (PSYOPS).
http://drjudywood.com/articles/ARA/ARA.html

Dr Wood also discovered two images on ARA’s website that are similar to the World Trade Center. She details this in her Appeal to NIST’s denial of her Request for Correction.
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/apics/Appeal_03.jpg
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/apics/Appeal_04.jpg
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIS ... ppeal.html





Who's Popular On Corporate Media? Who's Not?

*William Rodriguez - publicly speaks up against DEW / TV-Fakery
http://www.911researchers.com/node/555#comment-4089

*David Ray Griffin - pro Global Government (aka New World Order)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TZypcH9eg

*Steven Jones - pro explosives-demolition, pro thermite, pro molten metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayYXNo0i_Cs

*Kevin Barrett - supports Steven Jones
http://drjudywood.com/articles/a/KB/Barrett_Kevin.html

*Robert Bowman - expert on NORAD’s jet-scrambling procedures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5gio_iR2WE


Alex Jones - is a jesuit coadjutor
http://sparkoflife.wordpress.com/2008/0 ... th-rising/


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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:40 am 
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Oh Jesus Christ! :roll:

Why... won't... you... people... die?!

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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
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Rob Bishop wrote:
Oh Jesus Christ! :roll:

Why... won't... you... people... die?!


Because we are fueled by your ignorance, did you even read my post ? Discover that you are living in a box, plane-huggers are biggers pawns then people trying to look for Osama. Bridges don't walk across horizons and aluminum does not melt through steel. that's not the way it works. wake up to the laws of nature of which your reality abides by.


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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
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sparkoflife wrote:
Rob Bishop wrote:
Oh Jesus Christ! :roll:

Why... won't... you... people... die?!


Because we are fueled by your ignorance, did you even read my post ? Discover that you are living in a box, plane-huggers are biggers pawns then people trying to look for Osama. Bridges don't walk across horizons and aluminum does not melt through steel. that's not the way it works. wake up to the laws of nature of which your reality abides by.


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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:25 pm 
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With all due respect, meant most sincerely by the way, I wish to ask the following questions.

Why are the supposed NPT advocates usually so personally abrasive, with their patronising and condescending manner?

I am also now wondering, when not if the almost always offensive "9/11 truth movement" agent provocateurs will show up here, to once again hammer home the idea that NPT believers are a bunch of arrogant, patronising, obsessive and deluded ass clowns.

Please bear in mind, that controlled opposition is a very real tactic, and I am sure, many of you also have your doubts, about much of the non NPT "911 trooth" squad as well.

One last thing.

Are you aware, that Killtown and company have all along been very closely associated with, the maker of the '911 Eyewitness' disinfoganda movie (replete with dubbed in sounds of explosions and added in puffs of smoke which supposedly indicate a "controlled demolition") Mr. Rick Seigel himself?

Just in case you don't already know this too. :D

Mr. Rick Seigel supervised the move of the law firm Brown and Wood LLC, from the WTC to a safe location, just a short time before 911. Mr. Seigel, also, "just happened" to be across the river in Hoboken, all set up to film 911.

Thank you for putting up with me.

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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:47 pm 
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sparkoflife wrote:
Rob Bishop wrote:
Oh Jesus Christ! :roll:

Why... won't... you... people... die?!


Because we are fueled by your ignorance, did you even read my post ? Discover that you are living in a box, plane-huggers are biggers pawns then people trying to look for Osama. Bridges don't walk across horizons and aluminum does not melt through steel. that's not the way it works. wake up to the laws of nature of which your reality abides by.


The information you posted is really good "sparkoflife". It is obvious, to me, that aircraft made of soft low density materials cannot fly through concrete and steel walls.

It is also obvious to me, that you guys present NPT in a condescending and obnoxious manner, in order to purposely turn off even the most patient and open minded!

I honestly and truly believe, that you guys do this on purpose, for just the reason I stated above.

Give your boss, Rick Seigel, a big shalom from me, and tell him I hope he chokes, on a pork chop, at the next MOSAD pot luck dinner.

:butthead:

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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
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I have met and talked with Rick Siegel in person, face to face.
and I have no reasons what-so-ever to suspect him of being anything but legit.

but that's only my personal opinion.
unless you can show me hard evidence on the contrary,
I stick with my opinion.

Dr.No.

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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:30 pm 
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Dr.No. wrote:
I have met and talked with Rick Siegel in person, face to face.
and I have no reasons what-so-ever to suspect him of being anything but legit.

but that's only my personal opinion.
unless you can show me hard evidence on the contrary,
I stick with my opinion.

Dr.No.


Yes of course. I suggest that you begin here Dr. No.

New York Post Article, About 911 Researchers!
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?s=7756c5a4d519c55ccedceedc70b4d19e&showtopic=403&st=0

As you will see in the above linked to thread (which has been "edited" by someone I see), even Killtown had to agree, well publicly at least. At that time I did not get all the implications, and I still thought Killtown was the real deal. I did not realize until later what was really going on.

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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
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No-Planers are close minded ? Hahaha, what a joke. Honestly, if you want to believe in cookie cutter cut outs and aluminum melting through steel, go ahead.


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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:21 am 
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sparkoflife wrote:
No-Planers are close minded ? Hahaha, what a joke. Honestly, if you want to believe in cookie cutter cut outs and aluminum melting through steel, go ahead.



See what I mean?

This person obviously has not read the posts he/she is commenting on.

The Killtown crew is all about making asses of themselves in order to make NPT look ridiculous.

That's their job.

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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:24 pm 
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shebuwa wrote:
1) Why are the supposed NPT advocates usually so personally abrasive, with their patronising and condescending manner?

2) Are you aware, that Killtown and company have all along been very closely associated with, the maker of the '911 Eyewitness' disinfoganda movie... Mr. Rick Seigel himself?

3) (replete with dubbed in sounds of explosions and added in puffs of smoke which supposedly indicate a "controlled demolition")

1) Pot, meet Kettle.

2) No I wasn't aware I've been "very closely associated with" Rick Seigel. Looking forward to your next post to prove your extraordinary claim.

3) Are you accusing Rick of doing that, or Sofia Shafquat who did do that?


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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:27 pm 
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shebuwa wrote:
The Killtown crew is all about making asses of themselves in order to make NPT look ridiculous.

That's their job.

Let me correct you:

Quote:
The [shebuwa] crew is all about making asses of themselves in order to make NPT look ridiculous.

That's their job.


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 Post subject: Re: No Planes Theory Debunked
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Rob Bishop wrote:
sparkoflife wrote:
Rob Bishop wrote:
Oh Jesus Christ! :roll:

Why... won't... you... people... die?!


Because we are fueled by your ignorance, did you even read my post ? Discover that you are living in a box, plane-huggers are biggers pawns then people trying to look for Osama. Bridges don't walk across horizons and aluminum does not melt through steel. that's not the way it works. wake up to the laws of nature of which your reality abides by.


The Jesuit lizard people from Gidea told me not to read.

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Bishop, kindly go fuck yourself. Your show sucked, your a dick to everyone who disagrees with you, and you wish people dead for their opinions. Get your fascist ass out and stop posting. You offer nothing to any mature conversation. When people try to engage in such a thing with you, they fail miserably. Go dig up some more immature pictures from Google Images and STFU.


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