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rebel_lonedog
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Post subject: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:53 am |
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Fort Hood massacre suspect Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan sought to have some of his patients prosecuted for war crimes based on statements they made during psychiatric sessions with him, a captain who served on the base said Monday. Other psychiatrists complained to superiors that Hasan’s actions violated doctor-patient confidentiality, Capt. Shannon Meehan told The Dallas Morning News. One day after the Nov. 5 attack that killed 13 and wounded 29, a Fort Hood official said she had never received complaints about Hasan’s job performance. Col. Kimberly Kesling, deputy commander of clinical services at the base’s Darnall Army Medical Center, also said he was a “hardworking, dedicated young man who gave great care to his patients.” Fort Hood officials did not respond to interview requests late Monday. They have declined in recent days to say anything about the major, citing the ongoing investigation. . Meehan said he learned of Hasan’s prosecution requests from another base psychiatrist. That psychiatrist could not be reached for comment Monday. Full Article http://www.military.com/news/article/ha ... ESRC=eb.nl
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Dr.No.
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:08 pm |
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considering the source. that is after painting him as a rouge element Quote: sought to have some of his patients prosecuted for war crimes this places Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan as a human being with a conscience. a fighter for what's right. a typical candidate for a G.I. resistance movement. is there such a thing brewing in the .mil underground ?
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CandleInTheDark
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:44 am |
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It's possible that such visible actions were part of his "sheep-dipping" process as a patsy. Giving yourself a high profile before going on your random-rage massacre is at the top of the "To Do List" of any self-respecting patsy.
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CandleInTheDark
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:24 am |
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gabo de la Guerra wrote: A military tribunal will save taxpayers a lot of money..... Fuck'em ............. I don't believe any MK ultra BS conspiracy either. It's just us reaping what we have been collectively sowing with our policies. I think they call it blowback.  Not a chance, man. "At least one person is "neutralized" in connection with the incident, and a second is "cornered," retired Army Lt. Gen. Russel Honore told CNN, citing "unofficial, unconfirmed reports" from two sources."http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/05/texas. ... index.html"Armed gunmen Thursday killed ..... A suspect was in custody, Master Sergeant Tim Volkert at Fort Hood told AFP. But a Killeen police department spokeswoman warned there were still suspects[ at large. "There has been a shooting at Fort Hood and all the suspects are not in custody at this time," she told AFP. "I know they have active shooters out there." MSNBC reported there were at least two shooters, with one in custody, adding there was speculation that there may be a third gunman."http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091105/ts ... imemilitar"One gunman was reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN in Waco... "http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns ... nd_courts/"There are two confirmed suspect shooters, one in custody and another surrounded by swat in a building on post."http://www.kdhnews.com/news/story.aspx?s=36896"Army spokesman Lt. Col. Nathan Banks ... says two shooters were apparently involved."http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/ ... ks_at.html"Milly Land, who works at the base fitness center, said she was headed for the graduation ceremony at 2 p.m. at the Howze Theater when the campus was locked down. She went back to the fitness center. She said she spoke by phone with friends at the soldier processing center, who said a gunman walked in about 1:30, walked to the medical area of the processing center, and started shooting. A second gunman was shooting at the theater next door, she said. "http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns ... ?GT1=43001"All three of the people believed to have carried out the shooting were soldiers, Lt. General Bob Cone told reporters Thursday evening."http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html"no.162 --rick perry (gov and bilderberg member) said there were 3 shooters"http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=143149.40"Base spokesman Sergeant Major Jamie Poston "At this point we're looking for the other shooter.... " he added. "We are on the lookout for the second shooter," Poston said."http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/091105/w ... e_military"One gunman was caught quickly but the second went on the run and was cornered by SWAT teams"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Texas.html"KCEN-TV in Waco is reporting that one gunman is in custody, the other is involved in a standoff with police. The station is reporting that there is a third shooter."http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... ne_gunman/"Details of the events were sketchy, but officials said the shooting involved two men with M-16 rifles and began about 1:30 p.m."http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/78425.html"--''They are reporting a third shooter now.'' [That source was Ms. Shine from the Public Affairs office of Killeen, TX] --''3rd shooter now being reported as having been shooting "moments ago".'' --''Shepard Smith was talking with someone who confirmed a 3rd shooter.'' --pg19[dwiggen] ''My buddy at Hood just told me that there's a FOURTH SHOOTER! ....There is a confirmed FOURTH SHOOTER who is still at large. They just launched aircraft to search for him. My buddy.. is an Apache mechanic, and they just got word to spin their birds up and go lookin for this guy.'' "http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread516987/pg1Also, they are now saying that all of the shootings happened at the Soldier Rating and Processing site on the west side of the base -- one small location. However, earlier reports tell of attacks all over the base: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread516987/pg28 The local radio and eye witnesses also reported shootings at 4 other locations in the area. .... None of this is being covered nationally.[poster uncivilcivilian]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns ... nd_courts/.... according to NBC News affiliate KCEN in Waco, ... the person was holed up in building 42006 on the base...http://www.kdhnews.com/news/story.aspx?s=36896Fort Hood officials have reported a shooting at the barracks by Howze Theater on Old Ironside and 41st Streethttp://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/05/tex ... witnesses/Arrest of a suspect at a golf course 2.5 miles from the attack, shortly after attackhttp://www.CentralTexasNow.com/As of 4:32 eastern, the warning sirens have started again. There are reports of gunfire again in one of the neighborhoods on post.http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=143149.40no. 70 Additional shots were reported at a soldier's residence, KCEN-TV reported around 4:30pmhttp://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... ne_gunman/KCEN-TV in Waco is reporting that police have surrounded the PX at Fort Hood.http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=143149.40no.195 There are reports this afternoon that there are one or more shooters at a PX (Post Exchange) at Fort Hoodhttp://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=143149.40no.556 ...the IRN announcement on GCN yesterday. A girl who wanted only to be identified as "tiffany" said that shots were being fired from THREE locations. She mentioned the places but I only remember her saying the PBX was one of the locations.http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread516987/pg1--Not sure if it's an actual troop or not, but a call just came into the local PD that a man with a gun & fatigues is at the Dollar Store. SWAT & units from the base are being mobilized.[poster thomasblackraven]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Texas.htmlOne gunman was caught quickly but the second went on the run and was cornered by SWAT teams in a traumatic brain injury unit on the base where a gun battle eruptedAnd we're not done, yet. You know how they're saying that he used handguns? That's not what was first reported by numerous sources: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091105/ts ... imemilitarOne of the shooters at large was believed to have a high-powered sniper rifle, and was holed up in a building surrounded by SWAT teams, MSNBC said. "He heard small arms and some rifle fire while he was there.....''http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns ... nd_courts/KCEN quoted a source as saying the shooter had a high-powered rifle.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2379445/postsforum post no. 30 dead shooter had 2 handguns, captured major carried a riflehttp://forums.fingerlakes1.com/ubbthrea ... ost10997392 suspects with M16s, 1 neutralized.http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=143149.40forum post no. 572 I turned on Cnn.com at 2:30 central time. 1 hour after the shooting. They had a general on air, and said multiple times that they were using M-16s.http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread516987/pg3--foxnews-- A general is saying that M16s were involved [greeneyedleo] --Retired Army General [Bob Scales] on the phone saying the weapons used were M16's [CX] --Local news from Central Texas is still stating an assault rifle and hand guns. [pg 36 justaposter]http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/78425.htmlDetails of the events were sketchy, but officials said the shooting involved two men with M-16 rifleshttp://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... c&start=75From KCEN-TV in Waco, Texas: Reports say the shooter had a high-powered rifle and was aiming to kill.And let's not forget that after reporting for eight hours that Hasan was dead, he was suddenly brought back to life ("Stable Condition") at General Bob Cone's press conference. Hasan spent a lot of time around Blacksburg, VA, which mind control survivors have pinpointed as a key area of MKULTRA research in the US. It houses a massive DARPA facility under Butt Mountain. At Blacksburg, Hasan studied at Virginia Tech University and graduated in 1995. There, he was part of the ROTC and maintained close ties with the military there. This is interesting, since Virginia Tech University, the site of the 2007 PSYOPS/Black-Ops massacre and many suspicious beheadings/homocides, is a hot-spot for CIA recruiting, DARPA/Pentagon research, and the US Military. It is a "spook central" and an obvious hub for MKULTRA/Monarch operations in Blacksburg. Hasan, a Muslim, attended a mosque with close ties to the financing of CIA covert operations abroad. The 9/11 "hijacker" patsies were also connected to this mosque. Guys, this isn't blowback at all -- I'm 100% sure that this is a false-flag/covert-ops. Think about the early coverage. We heard about: -Four Shooters -Shootings in areas all over the base -The use of high-powered M16 rifles Now, it's changed to: -One shooter (Hasan) -Shooting in one area on the west side of the base -The use of two small handguns that were found on the suspect Obviously, this was carried out by four or more people -- a squad. They used high-powered rifles and carried out shootings all over the place, then they left Hasan to die in one area with his pistols. Hasan is in custody and is under heavy guard. There is no way he could contact friends on the outside, and it is unlikely that someone like him would have powerful friends in the media/military. Who, then, had the power to completely change the official version to fit with the "Single Shooter" Theory after the massacre? This was a 100% false-flag/black-ops event.
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krisboro
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:15 am |
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Nice research.
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Dr.No.
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:16 pm |
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krisboro wrote: Nice research. [joke]looks like CandleInTheDark is a smart "young one"[/joke]
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Coyena
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:45 pm |
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I never before considered the first reports to be anything other than "media mistakes." I recently talked to a friend of mine who is at Ft. Hood and was in an adjacent building during the incident. She graduated from "Combat Medic" school with me and was stationed at Ft. Hood after graduation. We were trained and qualified in both the M16/M4, and the M9 (9MM) handgun. She said that the shots she heard couldn't possibly have been from handguns. She said it sounded like the "burst" mode from MULTIPLE rifles.
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:54 pm |
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CandleInTheDark
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:30 pm |
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Coyena wrote: I never before considered the first reports to be anything other than "media mistakes." I recently talked to a friend of mine who is at Ft. Hood and was in an adjacent building during the incident. She graduated from "Combat Medic" school with me and was stationed at Ft. Hood after graduation. We were trained and qualified in both the M16/M4, and the M9 (9MM) handgun. She said that the shots she heard couldn't possibly have been from handguns. She said it sounded like the "burst" mode from MULTIPLE rifles. Thanks VERY MUCH for sharing this. An expert eyewitness who knew from experience that there was 0% chance that this was handgun fire, but that it sounded like multiple rifles -- unbelievable. This eyewitness account, from an expert, destroys both the "handgun" story and the "single-shooter" story. Quote: Reply with quote Just to add to Candle's list of reading material - here's a post that is said to be from the Idaho Observer that I found interesting - Ft. Hood-winked: Newest false-flag shooting story riddled with holes http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlig ... try_1.htmlGives quite a bit of background info on Hasan. (If that is his real name!) Great article! Some details I wasn't aware of to be found there: -The first reports said that there were as many as FIVE shooters. -After Bob Cone brought Hasan back to life, the story of his condition kept dramatically changing. -Witnesses thought they heard fully automatic fire. -Hasan had a Palestinian background. -Hasan was trained at the Center for Applied Behavior Systems, a US Military PSYOPS center. -The military-run medical school that Hasan graduated from was an MK-ULTRA hot-spot. -Hasan was a researcher for a gov/mil center that had it's website go offline after the shooting. -Hasan apparently used a spooky alias. -The Bushes secretly visited Ft. Hood after the shooting.
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:13 pm |
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Thank you, Coyena, for posting that Idaho Observer article. I was about to post that link too. That article is going to be kept updated as each new bit of information comes out. I could not figure out how to do a screen shot of the article. Wanted to post in a personal Word file so I could magnify print and read it more easily. It is a very important article.
There is evidence that this "lone gunman" spent some time at two prime places where "MK ultra" type conditioning takes place.
It appears that just like Okc bombing, there are early reports of two or three people definitely invoved but as each day passes, the news is being sifted down to there being just the old "lone gunman" meme.
This is sophisticated deep psyops that is really beyond my reasoning abilities, but it does appear that at least one of the goals of this operation was to form public opinion against Muslims. Maybe they want people to be in favor of our attacking Iran or our further troop support in Afghanistan. If this reasoning is valid, then it also seems incongruous that that no one in the media is calling this a case of a "Muslim terrorist" or "Islamic terrorism." They want the public to be against "Muslims" yet at the same time they seem to be avoiding like the plague the terms Muslim, Islamic, terrorism, and terrorist.
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:07 pm |
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Let's see if I can attach a copy of the observer article. It is a png image file, so I'm going to zip it first. Also, the photographs did not download when I saved the image file from the site. Attachment: File comment: zipped copy of Idaho Observer png file.
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:13 pm |
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krisboro wrote: Nice research. Yes and no. They have lassoed a plethora of information but don't really know what to do with it except come up with vague generalized conjecture... Quote: Obviously, this was carried out by four or more people -- a squad. They used high-powered rifles and carried out shootings all over the place, then they left Hasan to die in one area with his pistols.
This was a 100% false-flag/black-ops event.
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:15 pm |
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CandleInTheDark wrote: It's possible that such visible actions were part of his "sheep-dipping" process as a patsy. Giving yourself a high profile before going on your random-rage massacre is at the top of the "To Do List" of any self-respecting patsy. Yup...you follow Mr. Jones too far down his rabbit hole and pretty soon you start talkin like him...
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:37 pm |
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Roxdog wrote: CandleInTheDark wrote: It's possible that such visible actions were part of his "sheep-dipping" process as a patsy. Giving yourself a high profile before going on your random-rage massacre is at the top of the "To Do List" of any self-respecting patsy. Yup...you follow Mr. Jones too far down his rabbit hole and pretty soon you start talkin like him... Silliness. I did watch the Tarpley-Jones interview, but I watched it after I made that remark. I am no fan of Alex Jones, and only checked that show out because Webster Tarpley was on. Webster Tarpley has done great research that shows how patsies are set-up/monitored/supervised. Also, Jim Garrison, the New Orleans DA who tried Clay Shaw, did an investigation into Lee Oswald that shows quite conclusively that this was the patsy set-up M.O. used in the JFK case. You don't need to listen to AJ to know history: JFK -- Oswald visibly acts like a Commie Columbine -- Kids get in trouble with the cops prior to massacre, Are notorious 9/11 -- Muslims get into arguments in bars, Talk openly about disliking America OKC -- McVeigh has a trail of connections to all kinds of groups VTech -- Cho takes photos of students, Writes threatening English assignments PA Gym -- Shooter had been previously arrested for taking a grenade onto a bus AJ didn't create the method of setting up patsies. No, Rox -- the intelligence agencies did that.
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Post subject: Re: Report: Hasan Wanted Patient War Crimes Trials Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:40 pm |
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Roxdog wrote: krisboro wrote: Nice research. Yes and no. They have lassoed a plethora of information but don't really know what to do with it except come up with vague generalized conjecture... Quote: Obviously, this was carried out by four or more people -- a squad. They used high-powered rifles and carried out shootings all over the place, then they left Hasan to die in one area with his pistols.
This was a 100% false-flag/black-ops event. Really, I don't? I believe I did come up with a conclusion BASED on the information, not based on "conjecture": Quote: Guys, this isn't blowback at all -- I'm 100% sure that this is a false-flag/covert-ops.
Think about the early coverage. We heard about: -Four Shooters -Shootings in areas all over the base -The use of high-powered M16 rifles
Now, it's changed to: -One shooter (Hasan) -Shooting in one area on the west side of the base -The use of two small handguns that were found on the suspect
Obviously, this was carried out by four or more people -- a squad. They used high-powered rifles and carried out shootings all over the place, then they left Hasan to die in one area with his pistols.
Hasan is in custody and is under heavy guard. There is no way he could contact friends on the outside, and it is unlikely that someone like him would have powerful friends in the media/military.
Who, then, had the power to completely change the official version to fit with the "Single Shooter" Theory after the massacre?
This was a 100% false-flag/black-ops event. The claims I made are all in the reports that I linked to.
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